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[Javascript] How can search engines see a js include for navigation?
- From: javascript@xxxxxxxxxx (Golden Troll)
- Subject: [Javascript] How can search engines see a js include for navigation?
- Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 15:07:55 -0800
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Re: [Javascript] How can search engines see a js include for navi
gation?Free free to contact me off list for any specific questions about SSI
or XSSI.
Peace and Respects,
Scott Gahres
Owner
Golden Troll Ventures hemp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://goldentroll.com
-----Original Message-----
From: javascript-admin@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:javascript-admin@xxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of josh@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 1:46 PM
To: javascript@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Javascript] How can search engines see a js include for
navigation?
Ok, so I'm getting the sense that it is not possible to do a Javascript
include for navigation that will also be understandable by a "user agent"
(i.e. the search engine can't follow the links)
Next question: can a user agent follow the links within navigation code
placed in an SSI? I'm not so familiar with SSI. Resources on implementing
this if it does in fact work?
- josh draper
on 22-03-02 19.39, Filipiak, Bob (Contractor) at filipiab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:
Sorry.... I do the includes server side so the <NOSCRIPT> getssent to the
browser.
If you have to worry about lynx and other non-scripting browsers then jsut
do every thing important server side and only use client side JavaScript for
cosmetic stuff that doesn't matter wherethere the visitor sees it or not.
It's been fun....so long!
Bob Filipiak
(Contractor)
-----Original Message-----
From: Hassan Schroeder [mailto:hassan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 1:12 PM
To: javascript@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Javascript] How can search engines see a js include for
navigation?
> "Filipiak, Bob (Contractor)" wrote:
>
> AFAIK Even if the browser has JavaScript disabled the code still
downloads.
OK, that didn't seem logical -- what would be the point? -- so I
tested it.
Neither Moz0.9.7/Win nor IE5.5/Win with scripting off display the
<noscript> content from an external *.js file.
And more relevant to the question -- re' /search engines/ following
JS menu links -- Lynx doesn't see the <noscript> content either ...
So I'd bet there's a high probability that most search engines do
/not/ follow external JS references ...
> If the term "include" is being used as in
>
> <script type="text/javascript" src="mystuff.js"></script>
>
> rather than a server-scripting-based include --
>
> Why would a user agent that doesn't understand JavaScript follow a
> script source link to a file that has <noscript> tags in it? :-)
FWIW!
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<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT size=3D2>Sorry.... I do the includes server side =
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<BR><BR><BR><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
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javascript@xxxxxxxxxx</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Subject: Re: =
[Javascript] How=20
can search engines see a js include for</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>navigation?</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=3D2>> "Filipiak, Bob =
(Contractor)" wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> <BR>> AFAIK =
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content from an external *.js file.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=3D2>And =
more=20
relevant to the question -- re' /search engines/ following</FONT> =
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size=3D2>JS menu links -- Lynx doesn't see the <noscript> =
content either=20
... <BR></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>So I'd bet there's a high =
probability that=20
most search engines do</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>/not/ follow external =
JS=20
references ...</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=3D2>> If the term =
"include" is being=20
used as in</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> <BR>> =
<script=20
type=3D"text/javascript" src=3D"mystuff.js"></script></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
size=3D2>> <BR>> rather than a server-scripting-based include =
--</FONT>=20
<BR><FONT size=3D2>> <BR>> Why would a user agent that doesn't =
understand=20
JavaScript follow a</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>> script source link =
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